Отправлено: 11.11.09 13:19. Заголовок: English Cream vs American Cream

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 Отправлено: 11.11.09 13:19. Заголовок: First of all, there ..

First of all, there are two completely different gene series responsible for "English" and "American" cream. These two gene series act in different ways to dilute the color of a red dachshund's coat.

The Chinchilla Dilution ("C") gene series is responsible for true English cream. It effects the base coat color RED, and it effects TAN POINTS. It does NOT effect BLACK and CHOCOLATE pigment. This is why English cream dachshunds can have BLACK overlay. The RED base coat is diluted to the cream color, but the black overlay is unaffected. This is also why black & cream dachshunds have CREAM POINTS. The TAN POINTS are diluted to the cream color, but the black base coat is unaffected.

The Blue Dilution gene series ("D") is responsible for American cream, blue & tan, and isabella & tan. It effects the base coat colors RED, BLACK, and CHOCOLATE. It does NOT effect TAN POINTS. This is why American cream dachshunds CANNOT have BLACK overlay. The RED base coat is diluted to the cream color, and any black overlay is diluted to a BLUE color. This is also why blue & tan dachshunds have TAN POINTS. The TAN POINTS are NOT effected, but the black base coat is diluted to a BLUE color.

True ENGLISH Cream is the result of a dominant red (ayay -or- ayat) or recessive red (atat ee) dachshund with two alleles for CHINCHILLA DILUTION (cchcch). In the case of dominant red dachshunds, true English cream puppies are born very DARK in color. They look solid black when they are newborns. Over the course of the first 6 or 8 weeks, the true cream color emerges from the undercoat, slowly overtaking the initial black coat. The older the puppies get, the LIGHTER in color they become. Some may lose almost all of their black overlay, and are accurately called "English cream". Others may retain a great deal of their black overlay, and are often called "shaded English cream". In the case of the recessive red dachshunds, true English cream puppies are born very LIGHT in color. They are a beautiful golden buff color. The lack of a black overlay is caused by the recessive red alleles (ee), which prevent any black pigment from showing in the dachshund's coat. The older the puppies get, the LIGHTER in color they become. These solid golden buff dachshunds are called "clear English cream". All true English cream dachshunds are LONGHAIRED, and have a BLACK NOSE and BLACK NAILS.

In stark contrast, AMERICAN cream is the result of a dominant red (ayay -or- ayat) or recessive red (atat ee) dachshund with two alleles for BLUE DILUTION (dd). In the case of dominant red or recessive red dachshunds, American cream puppies are born very LIGHT in color. They can look almost solid white when they are newborns. Over the course of the first 6 or 8 weeks, their color DARKENS, slowly becoming more and more red. The older the puppies get, the DARKER in color they become. By 12 months of age, these dachshunds are some obvious shade of red. If they retain any of their overlay, it will be blue in color. Their noses and nails are blue. These dachshunds are accurately called "dilute red", and should be registered as RED.

Prior to the initial import of true longhaired English cream dachshunds from the United Kingdom in the mid-80's, the "American cream" dachshunds we see today were accurately called "dilute red". It was only after the Dachshund Club of America and the American Kennel Club began to allow "cream" as a registered color (intended for the true English creams) that some U.S. breeders began to call their "dilute red" puppies by another color... "cream". For some, it may have been ignorance of the breed standard colors and genetics. For others, money was surely a motive, considering the novelty and healthy price tag placed on the new English cream puppies now being bred in the United States. Whatever the reasoning behind the change from "dilute red" to "cream", it was wrong then, and it is wrong now.

The true English cream dachshunds being bred in the United States today can all be traced back within 5 generations to United Kingdom (UK) ancestry. If you do not see a UK registered "cream" in 5 generations, the dog is likely NOT a true English cream. There are dachshunds of Japanese ancestry, or African ancestry, which are registered as "cream". You should seriously research the pedigrees of these dogs. The UK ancestry might go back beyond the 5th generation, but it will still be there if they are true English cream. If you see a lot of "blue & tan" or "isabella & tan" along with the "cream" in a dachshund's pedigree, it is likely NOT a true English cream.

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 Отправлено: 11.11.09 13:22. Заголовок: CONFORMATION before ..

CONFORMATION before COLOR!
A true type English Cream miniature dachshund ranges in color from "golden" to "yellowish" to "strawberry" blonde. They should always have black noses with the exception of Chocolate/Creams, where it is acceptable to have a diluted nose. They can have black or self-colored nails and should also have exqusite black eye liner around the eye rims with the exception of the Chocolates. Most Creams are of English descent, hence the term "English Cream Dachshund". True English creams will trace back to British imports, which can be noted on our pedigrees. Cream is a recessive gene, so both parents must be creams or carry the cream gene to produce cream pups.
The term American Cream has come to describe cream dachshunds that are not of English descent, but rather appear to be cream. These dogs may or may not be True English Creams (double resessive). Some dogs labeled as cream may be resessive red or "e-red" dachshunds, which will darken with age. True cream dachshunds (English Creams) get lighter as they age. Check with the puppy breeder when in doubt. If a dachshund has the characteristics above, they may in fact be a true English cream. As previously stated, the resessive cream factor in the English cream dachshunds is referred to as a "Double Chinchilla Factor" (also referred to as "double resessive", "double dilute", or "EE"). The chincilla factor only acts on the red color, It does not act on the black or the Chocolate. That is why we often see black/cream dachshunds and chocolate/cream dachshunds. Dogs referred to as American cream dachshunds are due to a different dilution factor than the chinchilla factor. Many beleieve it is the blue dilutuion factor that affects black (for blue) and chocolate (for Isabella) and that this dilution will also affect the base coat of red. Please understand that we are a show breeding home and our primary goal is always to produce a sound miniature dachshund worthy of the show ring.

 Отправлено: 11.11.09 13:24. Заголовок: English Cream or Cr..

English Cream or Cream Dachshunds are not the result of an "F1" cross, or from a "one-time" breeding of a dachshund that carries cream color.....it is from generations of breeding different colors, like black and tan, red, black and cream, and Cream together to give the genes a "Hybrid Vigor". This is proven in all breeding programs of every species on Earth.

 Отправлено: 11.11.09 13:27. Заголовок: A note about Cream ..

A note about Cream Dachshunds:

Many people do not like the emphasis placed on color, but we happen to have fallen in love with our cream beauties. The information on color located on this page is purely informational and is not meant to place a "special" status on this color above others but rather to educate.

A true cream dachshund can range anywhere in color from golden to a yellowish white. They will always have black noses. They can have black or self colored nails and should have a black "eye liner" around the eyes. The majority of creams are of English decent hence the term English Cream Dachshund. English Cream Dachshunds trace back to British imports which can be viewed on their pedigrees. Cream is a recessive gene and both parents must be cream or carry the cream gene or factor to produce cream pups.

The term American Cream has come about to describe cream dachshunds that appear to be cream in color but are not of English decent. These dogs may or may not be true creams (double recesive). Some dogs labeled as cream may be recessive red or "e-red" dachshunds which will darken as they age. True cream dachshunds (English Creams) get lighter as they age. Check with the breeder of the puppy when in doubt. If a dachshund has the charicteristics listed above, they are probably a true cream. As previously stated, the recessive cream factor in English Cream Dachshunds is what is referred to genetically as a "double chinchilla factor" (also referred to as "double recessive" or "double dilute"). The chinchilla factor only acts on the red color. It does not act on black/tan or chocolate. This is why we can see black and cream dachshunds and chocolate and cream dachshunds. Dogs referred to as American Cream would be considered a dilute red or eRed. It is thought that the American Cream Dachshund is due to a different dillution factor than the chinchilla factor. Many believe that it is the blue dillution factor that affects black (for blue) and chocolate (for issabella) and that this dillution factor will also affect the base coat red.

 Отправлено: 11.11.09 13:46. Заголовок: True Clear English C..

True Clear English Cream or ee Cream. Unlike an
English Cream or shaded English Cream (who is born a charcoal color and
lightens up eventually to a cream) a Clear English Cream is born a light
buttery cream color and lightens up to a pretty cream color. Some
breeders try and claim to have clear cream puppies but they are actually a
clear red; they start out reddish cream as puppies and darken into a light
red color as adults. These "clear reds" are actually missing a gene known
as the Chinchilla Gene. If BOTH parents do not carry this gene, and the
puppy is born a light cream color, it is very likely it may not grow up to
stay Creme.

 Отправлено: 11.11.09 13:49. Заголовок: English Cream vs. Am..

English Cream vs. American Cream
We've all seen dachshunds described as "cream" colored. Some are a golden buff color, some are a strawberry blonde color, some have black overlay, some have no overlay at all, and others appear to be simply red. Are all these various shades of color really "cream"? The answer is NO. In fact, there is only one true "cream" ... the longhaired English creams of UK ancestry. Any other color that's mistakenly called "cream" or "American cream" is not a true "cream", and should be called and registered as RED. This is in accordance with the breed standard set by the Dachshund Club of America and followed by the American Kennel Club.

So, if you're looking for a puppy, how can you tell if it's a true English cream or a misrepresented red? There are ways to distinguish between the two, and it's fairly easy for even the novice dachshund owner. You just have to know what to look for... and what to look out for...

First of all, there are two completely different gene series responsible for "English" and "American" cream. These two gene series act in different ways to dilute the color of a red dachshund's coat.

The Chinchilla Dilution ("C") gene series is responsible for true English cream. It effects the base coat color RED, and it effects TAN POINTS. It does NOT effect BLACK and CHOCOLATE pigment. This is why English cream dachshunds can have BLACK overlay. The RED base coat is diluted to the cream color, but the black overlay is unaffected. This is also why black & cream dachshunds have CREAM POINTS. The TAN POINTS are diluted to the cream color, but the black base coat is unaffected.

The Blue Dilution gene series ("D") is responsible for American cream, blue & tan, and isabella & tan. It effects the base coat colors RED, BLACK, and CHOCOLATE. It does NOT effect TAN POINTS. This is why American cream dachshunds CANNOT have BLACK overlay. The RED base coat is diluted to the cream color, and any black overlay is diluted to a BLUE color. This is also why blue & tan dachshunds have TAN POINTS. The TAN POINTS are NOT effected, but the black base coat is diluted to a BLUE color.

True ENGLISH Cream is the result of a dominant red (ayay -or- ayat) or recessive red (atat ee) dachshund with two alleles for CHINCHILLA DILUTION (cchcch). In the case of dominant red dachshunds, true English cream puppies are born very DARK in color. They look solid black when they are newborns. Over the course of the first 6 or 8 weeks, the true cream color emerges from the undercoat, slowly overtaking the initial black coat. The older the puppies get, the LIGHTER in color they become. Some may lose almost all of their black overlay, and are accurately called "English cream". Others may retain a great deal of their black overlay, and are often called "shaded English cream". In the case of the recessive red dachshunds, true English cream puppies are born very LIGHT in color. They are a beautiful golden buff color. The lack of a black overlay is caused by the recessive red alleles (ee), which prevent any black pigment from showing in the dachshund's coat. The older the puppies get, the LIGHTER in color they become. These solid golden buff dachshunds are called "clear English cream". All true English cream dachshunds are LONGHAIRED, and have a BLACK NOSE and BLACK NAILS.

In stark contrast, AMERICAN cream is the result of a dominant red (ayay -or- ayat) or recessive red (atat ee) dachshund with two alleles for BLUE DILUTION (dd). In the case of dominant red or recessive red dachshunds, American cream puppies are born very LIGHT in color. They can look almost solid white when they are newborns. Over the course of the first 6 or 8 weeks, their color DARKENS, slowly becoming more and more red. The older the puppies get, the DARKER in color they become. By 12 months of age, these dachshunds are some obvious shade of red. If they retain any of their overlay, it will be blue in color. Their noses and nails are blue. These dachshunds are accurately called "dilute red", and should be registered as RED.

Prior to the initial import of true longhaired English cream dachshunds from the United Kingdom in the mid-80's, the "American cream" dachshunds we see today were accurately called "dilute red". It was only after the Dachshund Club of America and the American Kennel Club began to allow "cream" as a registered color (intended for the true English creams) that some U.S. breeders began to call their "dilute red" puppies by another color... "cream". For some, it may have been ignorance of the breed standard colors and genetics. For others, money was surely a motive, considering the novelty and healthy price tag placed on the new English cream puppies now being bred in the United States. Whatever the reasoning behind the change from "dilute red" to "cream", it was wrong then, and it is wrong now

 Отправлено: 11.11.09 13:59. Заголовок: bornao Спасибо за по..

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 Отправлено: 11.11.09 14:12. Заголовок: English Creams vs. A..

English Creams vs. American Creams ...
The cream is probably the most controversial color associated with the Dachshund breed. Cream is a genetic makeup of the dog as well as its outward color appearance. The creams originated in England hence their label "English Cream". However, they are simply registered as creams/Cremes.

A cream can only be achieved from bloodlines which trace back to the English bloodline. An American or African bloodline will not produce a cream unless there are English Bloodline Creams in the background. It should be noted that the AKC did not register the first English Creams as Creams in their registry.

An English Cream has a slightly different head formation than those of other genetic make-up. English Creams also have finer hair with thicker hair coats that flow more smoothly over the sides of their body.

Two RED gene dogs can produce cream offspring if they both carry Chinchilla 'cch' recessively and those genes align themselves in the gene pool.

Creams seldom are born cream in appearance, they are more times than not born a grayish/brown black which slowly changes into a cream color between 8-20 weeks of age. Any offspring being born what appears to be a cream should not be marked one until it is over 4 months of age and its true color has time to make itself known.

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 Отправлено: 11.11.09 14:14. Заголовок: Clear Red: Clear red..

Clear Red: Clear red is a light red (often confused with Crиme). They do not have any tan markings or a single black hair in their coat. Any white markings are undesirable. Nose and nails are black in color. Clear red is not an AKC recognized color but is referred to as a color by many breeders. Any pattern is possible. A clear red is extremely difficult to distinguish from Cream. An accurate pedigree with knowledge in genetics is helpful. Clear Reds are genetically black dogs that have two e-recessive alleles

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 Отправлено: 11.11.09 15:04. Заголовок: cream longhairs, als..

cream longhairs, also called "English cream".
Cream is a result of the same chinchilla dilution as wheaten, and is seen in longhair and occasionally smooth coats. Creams, like the reds, can be either shaded or clear, depending on which set of red genes is present. Shaded creams are born very dark at birth and lighten as they age. Clear creams are born light colored at birth and will stay light colored. (Thor) The chinchilla dilution affects the red color in the coat. Most cream dogs have English imports in the first 4-5 generations of the pedigree, thus the name "English cream". If a dog carries one copy of the chinchilla dilution gene, it is sometimes called "blush", but is still registered as a red dog

 Отправлено: 11.11.09 23:32. Заголовок: The ee dilute red fa..

The ee dilute red factor when showing will render red a light cream which at birth may appear almost white, to a strawberry cream color but these ee reds will darken over time to some shade of red. You will find these dogs often described as “American Cream”, or “strawberry cream”. This ee dilute factor will not allow any black hairs to show on the dog. Do not confuse these dogs with the English Cream dogs out of England. Their cream color is obtained from a completely different set of genes. These genes are known as the chinchilla dilution factor, or chch chinchilla gene, which is usually referred to as English Cream. This renders red a lovely shade of cream and lightens with age. Unlike the ee gene which does not allow any black hairs to show the chinchilla gene does not affect the black or chocolate hairs on the dog so one can have a cream dog with or without black shading, or brindling, black and cream dogs, and chocolate and cream dogs. There are four coat patterns, solid color, with or without points, brindle, piebald, and dappled. With the ability to have any color and pattern combination with any coat type the dachshund is one of the most varied dogs on earth. Therefor every dachshund puppy is unique and special with a unique compliment of genes.

 Отправлено: 11.11.09 23:36. Заголовок: Buying a Cream Dachs..

Buying a Cream Dachshund can be very confusing for pet buyers because there are so many breeders advertising Creams under many different names like American Cream, English Cream ect....... below I have explained some of these differences.

English Creams- The majority of English Creams have longhair. They are born a dark mousey brown and as they grow (during the first 12wks) they will loose the dark hairs and they will be replaced with cream hairs. In some English creams a blanket of dark hair will stay on thier back, tips of the ears ect... this is called a Shaded English Cream. They typically have black nails, wiskers, paw pads, and noses.

 Отправлено: 11.11.09 23:38. Заголовок: Clear English Creams..

Clear English Creams- These English Creams are NOT born a dark mousey brown and are not very common. They are born very light and have absolutely no shading on their coat. From birth to adulthood they will have a solid cream coat, light (usually white) nails, white wiskers, pink paw pads, and a light brownish pink nose. These English Creams cannot produce any dark pigment due to a gene they carry known as an ee-red or clear red gene.

 Отправлено: 11.11.09 23:42. Заголовок: BLACK & CREAM E..

BLACK & CREAM ENGLISH CREAM- These creams are black with cream points and can be produced by two Solid cream parents or two black/cream parents or a mixture of the two. They have amazing contrast between their dark coats and light creamy points!
If a black/cream puppy is born to a Full English Cream parent and an English Cream Carrier parent that is either red, black/tan, or chocolate/tan there is a big chance that the puppy may look black/cream as a puppy but will turn black/tan as an adult. The only way to know for sure is if both parents are Full English Cream.
CHOCOLATE & CREAM ENGLISH CREAMS- These creams have a chocolate body with cream points, they are difficult to find but are very stunning

 Отправлено: 11.11.09 23:46. Заголовок: ee-red Dachshunds- T..

ee-red Dachshunds- These dachshunds are born a light creamy color but it is usually obvious that they are red by the time they are 8 wks old. Any red puppies born out of two black/tans or chocolate/tan parents are ee-reds

 Отправлено: 12.11.09 00:00. Заголовок: DILUTE RED- (can app..

DILUTE RED- (can appear in all coats): Also known as E red. A red dachshund with a liver color noise and nails -- all of which is just red. 'liver-nose' which means its nose and nails would be the same color as the chocolate and tan.


DILUTE CREAM- (can appear only in smooth and long hair): Also known as E cream. A cream dachshund with a liver color noise and nails. 'liver-nose' which means its nose and nails would be the same color as the chocolate and tan.
AMERICAN CREAM- (can appear only in smooth and long hair) At birth appear to be white to pale blond, When they get older, they often apprear to be a clear red color (See Clear Red at top of page for description) and should have the darkest eyes, nose and nails. If you have a Wire hair appearing to be cream, it is called Wheaten.


CLEAR RED- (can appear in all coats): Some people call it Strawberry Cream, Strawberry Blond and/or Creamy Red, it is still just a red that may or may not carry for the cream color. A Clear Red is a lite red dachshund with a black color noise and nails.

 Отправлено: 12.11.09 00:02. Заголовок: CHOCOLATE/CREAM- (ca..

CHOCOLATE/CREAM- (can appear only in smooth and long hair): A chocolate and cream dachshund will be chocolate all over with cream points (cream on feet, over eyes, on face around muzzle, on chest, under tail). It will have light brown eyes and on occasion green to hazel eyes, brown to light brown nose and nails.

 Отправлено: 12.11.09 11:43. Заголовок: red and cream http:..

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